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Post by Frogman on Sept 24, 2003 17:59:16 GMT -5
You forgot about Rennie 7 for 7 Stennet, Frank Taveras, Bill Blass, Manny Sanguillen, Dave Cash and Kent Tekulve. Ask me any starting baseball player from any 1973 roster. ie. backup firstbasemen Oakland A's- Mike Epstein
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Post by Ducky on Sept 26, 2003 16:07:30 GMT -5
CF, '74 Dodgers-? 3b, '73 Pirates-? 1b, '76 Reds-? LF, '72 Giants-? 3b, '72 Giants-? RF- '74 Pirates-? LF- '75 Cubs-?
Steve Blass, not Bill Blass.
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Post by Frogman on Sept 26, 2003 18:51:57 GMT -5
Jim "Toy Cannon" Wynn-- Tommie Davis backup
Richie Hebner- 3rd base Pirates
Tony Perez sounds too easy to 76 Reds-- I don think he went to the Expos after 75
San Francisco Left Fielder== Dave "Sky King" Kingman 74 Giants leftfielder
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Post by Ducky on Sept 26, 2003 19:30:46 GMT -5
Wynn, correct. Hebner, correct. Perez is correct, who was '79 Reds- LF, '72 Giants was George Foster 3b, '72 Giants was David Arthur Kingman RF, '74 Pirates was Richie Zisk LF, '75 Cubbies was Leo Cardines
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Post by Frogman on Sept 27, 2003 8:11:52 GMT -5
Duckman,
You know I'm pretty impressed with myself, I haven't contemplated those names in 25 years. And at least I was literally in the same ballpark with Dave Kingman. I forgot that George Foster was a SF Giant.
Was the first baseman for the '79 Reds Christopher Plummer?
Who was the starting thirdbaseman for the '73 Kansas City Royals? I'll give you a hint-- He was the first Topps bubble gum blower champion and he has an Italian surname that literally means drinking a certain beverage.
Who was the starting second baseman for the '73 Oakland A's?-- Hint kids our age had a lot of fun with reversing his name
Who was the All-Star Catcher for the American League in 1972? I should have got Richie Zisk right by the way
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Post by Ducky on Sept 28, 2003 7:25:03 GMT -5
79 Reds, !b- Dan Driessen bubble gum champ- Kurt Beveuqua 73 A's, 2b- thingy Green/Mike Andrew... ?name backwards? 72 All-Star catcher- Ray Fosse anything else.
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Post by Ducky on Sept 28, 2003 7:27:38 GMT -5
ok, Richard Green.... I wrote his nickname that starts with a "D" and the internet actually change it to "thingy." How ridiculas.
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Post by Frogman on Sept 28, 2003 15:06:47 GMT -5
Duckman,
Nice work on Kurt Bevacqua, however Ray Fosse was not the starting All-Star catcher in '72. Hint-- He was a Detroit Tiger and yes you were correct on thingy Green
What player had the most hits in the 1980's?
Opinion- Who was the greatest pitcher you ever saw?
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Post by Frogman on Sept 28, 2003 15:09:13 GMT -5
Perry,
Holy Cow I didnt realize the internet automatically did that? Suppose some had a real need to write down the shortened, informal version of the Richard surname?
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Post by Ducky on Sept 28, 2003 17:54:34 GMT -5
72 Tigers- Bill Freehan
most hits '80's- either Tony Gwynn or Kirby Pucket
best pitcher I ever saw--- no doubt and without exception- Nolan Ryan
*left a message with Seaford coaches for a date, havn't heard back, I WILL call again.
your opinion on pitcher-? best hitter you ever saw? (mine-- Donnie Baseball)
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Post by Frogman on Sept 28, 2003 18:16:33 GMT -5
Willie Wilson-
Nolan Ryan-- the man was barely a 500 pitcher.
As much as I hate him Roger Clemens is the best pitcher I ever saw. Tom Seaver used to be until Clemens got his 300th. I also lament I never saw Koufax pitch either.
Best hitter I ever saw-- Rod Carew
Keep me posted on the dates
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Post by Ducky on Sept 29, 2003 15:12:04 GMT -5
yeh, I can see Willie Wilson holding that distiction.
you'd better check your record books and think about this--- Nolan had more wins than Seaver and Clemens, 324; had over 5000 K's, threw 100+ mph, held 58 pitching records- including the most 1-hitters, was a power pitcher into his mid-40's, never went on the DL (until his very last start at age 46) 7 no-hitters-- thats SEVEN!--more than we've had in stickball, pitch a no-no at age 44, was dynamic-- threat to pitch a no-hitter EVERY time he started, had great control in his latter years, and basically was not human when it came to an arm.
Carew did not DRIVE the ball. Whereas Donnie did. I put Carew behind Donnie, Cecil Cooper, and George Brett.
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Post by Duckman on Sept 29, 2003 19:30:43 GMT -5
Perry,
George Brett was the greatest hitter I ever saw, but Reggie Jackson is the best big game hitter I ever saw. I loved Carew because of that stance, he seemed to know something about hitting that we didnt with that swing. The great thing about baseball when I was a kid and I always talk about this with Germano, is that your window to the great ball player was through baseball cards. I saw this guy Rod Carew with the Gold Star on his card and every year the SOB hit over 320. As your interest piqued, you couldn't wait to watch the Game of the week on NBC when the Minnesota Twins were playing. When you finally got to see the guy and he had this unbelievable stance it made it that much more cooler.
Yes, Ryan has all those stats except the two most important ones: ERA and winning percentage
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Post by Duckman on Sept 30, 2003 19:38:47 GMT -5
ok, here's the deal... ERA? win/loss %? That means the greatest pitchers ever are guys like Greg Maddux? Andy Pettitte? Don Gullet? Whitey Ford? Pedro Borbon? These guys had great W/L %. But they where on great TEAMS. How about ERA... Randy Johnson---- yeh, great, but not the greatest I saw, Pedro--- yeh, great, but I've seen better, Mike Mussina's ERA is one of the greatest ever. Seaver does not rank near the top 20 in either catagory. Roger is up there, but not high up. In fact, I Do put Seaver and Roger WAY ahead of the aformentioned pitchers. Now look at the teams Ryan was on, they stank. His ERA? Well, Bob Gibson ranks #40 in ERA--- so he must've been a bad pitcher. Get my point? No pitcher compares to the awesome-ness of Nolan Ryan, period You want to go by ERA and W/L%--then Christy Mathewson was the best ever, but I never saw him pitch.
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Post by Frogman on Oct 1, 2003 9:50:48 GMT -5
Perry,
Yes, you make a compelling argument on Ryan, but he was listed on ESPN website as one of the most overrated Athletes of all time next to Joe Namath. I am going to get Bob Germano on this because he's a statistical wiz and whenever we get into these arguments he does these statistical breakdowns between two players.
I am going to ask him to do one between Seaver and Ryan.
Bonus Question--How many career hits did Roberto Clemente have?
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